Impact Engraver on Steroids! - Engraving Etc. Forum

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	29 Dec 2006
To:	laserman (MIKEMAC)	1 of 9

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Mike, With your long history in the engraving industry, I thought you may have the answer to this question: Yesterday, I was shown an example of engraving and asked if I can match it. At first glance, the engraving looked like a rotary-engraved, gothic typeface, in .060 engravers (leaded/yellow) brass. Upon closer inspection, it was obvious that the engraving was done on some sort of industrial-strength impact machine. A fine dot pattern could be seen and viewing the plate from behind, showed where the metal had been stressed, in a faint mirror image of the engraving. Although the engraving wasn't color-filled, I have no doubt it was deep enough for color-filling. Years ago, I remember seeing a piece of equipment called "The Incredible Machine" which was an impact engraver, but I doubt it would have been "robust" enough for this application. What do you think? Thanks, David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA
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From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	29 Dec 2006
To:	Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)	3 of 9

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Thank you David. Just when you think you've seen it all. :-) I'm actually looking for someone with that type of equipment (in SoCal) to whom I can refer this customer. I'll inquire within. David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	Carl (CSEWELL)	29 Dec 2006
To:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	4 of 9

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David; Similar machines are made by Pryor, Telesis, Technifor, etc. They are collectively referred to as dot peen or pin stampers. They also mfg 'drag' equipment. You might want to contact a local tool and die shop to see if they have the equipment. Companies involved in UID marking might also have this 'technology'. Most companies that do work for the aerospace and automotive industries should have one or more. I've used quite a few pin stampers in the development of Data Matrix symbols. Carl Guntersville Laser Engraving Guntersville, AL http://www.GuntersvilleLaser.com

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	29 Dec 2006
To:	Carl (CSEWELL)	5 of 9

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Thank you Carl.

I think these plates were done for the military, which makes me think a metal fabrication house (or similar) may have been involved.

Thanks for the links. Interesting stuff!

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

EDITED: 29 Dec 2006 by DGL

From:	Carl (CSEWELL)	29 Dec 2006
To:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	6 of 9

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If they are done for the military, they almost have to be MIL-STD-130 compliant. Search for "UID marking + California" and you'll get a lot of companies that have that capability in California. Carl Guntersville Laser Engraving Guntersville, AL http://www.GuntersvilleLaser.com

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	29 Dec 2006
To:	Carl (CSEWELL)	7 of 9

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Thanks again Carl. You're a bubbling fountain of information. :-) David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)	29 Dec 2006
To:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	8 of 9

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Then there is always the 100 ton screw press or knuckle press that uses a stamping die, but not for onsies. Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem) When you finally understand it completely... it changes.