Ethanol Fuel – The Boondoggle - Engraving Etc. Forum

From:	Dave Jones (DAVERJ)	8 Feb 2007
To:	Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)	21 of 27

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A friend of mine from England told me a story from his town a couple of years ago. A large market had cases of vegetable oil on sale at a low price. But they were amazed at the demand for it. They were selling hundreds of cases per day.

Turns out that a 50/50 mix of regular diesel fuel and vegetable oil works quite well in the diesel cars over there. And without the road tax and various other taxes the vegetable oil was far cheaper than diesel fuel. One byproduct was that the cars smelled like french fries.

Diesel cars are far more popular in Europe, and the diesel engines of the past couple of years and fuel seem to be more advanced than what is sold over here. Much cleaner and more efficient.

...Dave
Dave Jones Design

From:	basehorawards	9 Feb 2007
To:	ALL	22 of 27

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For about $10,000 you can buy a kit from a company in Missouri that will convert your deisel to run on vegetable oil. All you have to do, they say, is line up a couple of restaurants to give you their used frier oil. Then you have to process it. It works pretty well I hear but most people will not do it. (Can't find the time what with Wheel of Fortune on with current episodes plus in syndication too.)

It would really be great if someone could get a low level nuclear reactor small enough to run a car or truck. Even France understands the value and benefits of nuclear power. Why don't we?

James

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From:	RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1)	9 Feb 2007
To:	basehorawards	23 of 27

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Best not to get caught using "alternative" fuels in your vehicle...The government frowns on losing good tax dollars...........They tint Bio Diesel with a color for this purpose.......(supposedly). If you see a cop behind you in your diesel....it may not be just because you have been using oil waste from a doughnut shop. :) Thanks, Brian Genrich Rallye Productions Inc. 1-800-236-2036 x112 Custom cut, or sheet stock Sublimatable metal, Screen printing, and other digital print services.

From:	basehorawards	9 Feb 2007
To:	RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1)	24 of 27

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quote: Best not to get caught using "alternative" fuels in your vehicle...The government frowns on losing good tax dollars Boy that is an accurate statement. Basic diesel comes in three colors. On road, off road and farm use. Different uses, different colors, different taxes but the same fuel. I have wondered what would happen when someone with vegetable oil got stopped for a spot check. The color has to be dead on no hint of the wrong color - even a shade - or your vehicle is impounded and you get a huge fine. I will have to ask one of law enforcement friends. I had never heard of bio-diesel being tinted. The vegetable oils conversions use diesel to start and warm up the engine and the vegetable oil. Then you switch over to straight oil. Shortly before you stop you are supposed to switch back to diesel so that the oil does not set up in your injection system. But if you get the oil for free it seems like it might be worth it. After a while I would think there would be so many people wanting the oil the restaurants would start selling it. James Basehor Awards & Trophies

From:	Dee (DEENA-ONLY)	9 Feb 2007
To:	basehorawards	25 of 27

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So what you are saying is that our local KFC could make more money selling fuel than selling chicken. Could they then be know as the Kentucky Fuel Corp?(devil)

Dee

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

From:	basehorawards	9 Feb 2007
To:	Dee (DEENA-ONLY)	26 of 27

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They would stand a better chance of getting my money that way. The only one around here is staffed with people (including management) that seemed to be bothered when customers come in and ask questions rather than just ordering a combo. James Basehor Awards & Trophies

From:	LG (WAIIB)	9 Feb 2007
To:	basehorawards	27 of 27

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They are trying to do just that in North Dakota (grow hemp for profit). They passed a law and are now fighting with the Feds. They say it is already being done just north of them across the border in Canada.