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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
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6250.1 
MICKEY MOUSE JOB
by David Lavaneri


Who wouldn't like this familiar, happy face staring up at them?

MickeyOuter1.JPG

If you're an engraver, you may not be as eager as the average person.

Why is that?

Occasionally, pocket watches are engraved on the outside of the case.
That's ideal; although, at some point, through a
customer request or due to the fact that some cases don't
have ample "clean" area for engraving, you'll be faced with the
task of engraving the inner side of the case.

MickeyFace1.jpg

This photo shows, when the watch is opened, the cover
of the watch doesn't open to a 90 degree angle.

Why is that important?

Due to the size of a pantograph's engraving spindle,
the effective engraving area of the watch is limited to the
travel between the spindle and the crystal of the watch.

MickeyJig1.jpg

In this photo, I've cheated the angle of the cover, by placing
the cover at an angle, in a standard New Hermes watch-holding jig.

A piece of light-tack painter's tape, protects the crystal from
incidental contact with the spindle.

The slight change of angle to the engraving surface isn't so noticeable
in the photo, but you'll see that the taped crystal is very upright.

That increases the travel of the spindle; not by much, but enough for this job.

TightInside1.jpg

All's well that ends well!


David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

EDITED: 5 Mar 2007 by DGL

 

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 From:  UncleSteve
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6250.2 In reply to 6250.1 

Mr. Lavaneri,

In accordance with the forum rules, please refrain from posting duplicate messages in multiple folders.

Thank you,

Uncle Steve

"Good friends can be a real annoyance."

EDITED: 5 Mar 2007 by UNCLESTEVE

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  UncleSteve 
6250.3 In reply to 6250.2 
Mr. Moderator,

One folder isn't seen by people, other than moderators. Technically, the beginnings of this piece are in one folder. :-)

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  UncleSteve
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6250.4 In reply to 6250.3 
So you are saying it is okey dokey to post in multiple folders as long as the general populace can only see one?

Oh, goody! Today I am a moderator!!!!! :-&

"Good friends can be a real annoyance."

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  UncleSteve 
6250.5 In reply to 6250.4 
Try maybe a modulator.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

 

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 From:  UncleSteve
 To:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) 
6250.6 In reply to 6250.5 
Is that like "tone it down"? :'-(

"Good friends can be a real annoyance."

 

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 From:  Mike (MIKEN)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6250.7 In reply to 6250.6 
David:

Nice work.

You've convinced me!

I have to sell this machine. I could never do that kind of work.

Mike Null
Dist. of Lazer Cutting Grid
www.stl-laser.com

 

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 From:  geebeau
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6250.8 In reply to 6250.1 

How cool is that!!!!!!!

Steve

Steve
Custom ID & Awards

 

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 From:  UncleSteve
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6250.9 In reply to 6250.1 
VERY nice job... but no less than we would expect from the "Stunt Engraver"!!!

From now on, I will send all my stunts to you foro engraving...

Seriously, a beautiful job on a tough CPM*... :D





*Customer provided material

"Good friends can be a real annoyance."

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
6250.10 In reply to 6250.7 
Mike,

That's one of the easier jobs. Not much different than engraving a 2" brass disc.

The difference is, not too many people will pay $25 for the same amount of engraving on a brass disc. :-)

It's the "fear factor" that makes people shy away from these types of jobs, not the level of difficulty.

I'll have to engrave a large silverplated tea urn this week. That will be much more difficult.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  geebeau 
6250.11 In reply to 6250.8 

Steve,

It's much cooler, after the proof-reading is over and finding everything was spelled correctly. :P

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

EDITED: 6 Mar 2007 by DGL

 

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 From:  Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6250.12 In reply to 6250.1 
Beautiful job on a very tight space, David! Did you also drop the diamond down as far as possible to gain additional travel? I would imagine that most of the spindle would have to ride above the watch portion to get that close to the crystal.

Jim

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) 
6250.13 In reply to 6250.12 

Thank you Jim.

I have an extra-long spindle on that machine, (would have also worked with a standard diamond spindle) so I didn't have to lower it as much as possible, although I did have to keep the highest point of the watch away from the upper portion of the spindle housing.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

EDITED: 6 Mar 2007 by DGL

 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6250.14 In reply to 6250.1 
Easily done with a laser.....and 8 gallons of Cermark....and maybe a couple of Mickey Mouse watches. :O)

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  Dave Jones (DAVERJ)
 To:  gt350ed 
6250.15 In reply to 6250.14 
No Cermark needed. Just one spare watch, which you send to David L. to engrave after the laser lens assembly smashes the first one to pieces. :-&
 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  Dave Jones (DAVERJ) 
6250.16 In reply to 6250.15 
quote:
after the laser lens assembly smashes the first one to pieces.


This won't be a problem. David just did not open the bezel cover far enough. I'm thinking 180 degrees...so everything lays flat. :O)

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC)
 To:  gt350ed 
6250.17 In reply to 6250.16 
quote:
This won't be a problem. David just did not open the bezel cover far enough. I'm thinking 180 degrees...so everything lays flat.

Would this require the hammer jig?

Jim

 

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 From:  gt350ed
 To:  Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) 
6250.18 In reply to 6250.17 
T-Shirt press.

Ed Holley
Victor Valley Trophy & Awards Co.
and Coffee Mugs Online
www.coffeemugsonline.com

 

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 From:  Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6250.19 In reply to 6250.1 

David,

I've never thought about engraving at a slight angle to gain better access to limited engraving areas. I learned something new today.

A have a big question I'd love to have answered. How does one remove a pocket watch cover? It can't be that complicated.

I've Googled the internet for information pertaining to the removal pocket watch lids and covers and have come up empty.

You could still charge the $25 because of the extra dis-assembly and re-assembly required, but it would be less risky.


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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) 
6250.20 In reply to 6250.19 
David,

I've never tried to remove the cover, mainly because there's a small spring to deal with.

I can imagine the spring shooting across the room, never to be seen again. >.<

Sometimes the pin in the hinge can be tapped through the opening, but they're often pounded flat or crimped somehow, to make the task more difficult than it would appear.

Probably quite easy for someone who works with watches and has the proper tools.

Timepieces are another lucrative area, where many engravers fear to tread.

BTW - The $25 was charged to a trophy shop client, who will probably resell the engraving for $50.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 
 
     
 

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