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 From:  Mike (MIKEN)
 To:  ALL
6317.1 
Yesterday I received a call from a lady wanting to know if I could make stencils. As we proceeded with the conversation I asked where she was located--she said Ottawa, Canada. I suggested that it might be better if she had somebody local do the work and she agreed.

I asked her to hold while I checked on another forum where members list themselves for such referrals. There was a member listed in Ottawa but no contact info and she didn't want to register to send this guy a PM.

To make a long story short how about a members list by city, state, country on this forum with adequate contact info?

If there is one tell me how to find it.

Mike Null
Dist. of Lazer Cutting Grid
www.stl-laser.com

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
6317.2 In reply to 6317.1 
Mike,

No such list as of yet. Good idea though.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Mike (MIKEN)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6317.3 In reply to 6317.2 

David:

The format they use on SMC is pretty good.

I can't figure out why somebody who wants to be listed doesn't fill out their contact info.

Mike Null
Dist. of Lazer Cutting Grid
www.stl-laser.com

EDITED: 14 Mar 2007 by MIKEN

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
6317.4 In reply to 6317.3 
Mike,

I have seen the "members list" as a stock feature in some forum software.

Some people are leary about putting any information about themselves on the internet. In this case, as a form of a referral service, I'd think a professional would want their info listed.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Vicky (ANDERI)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
6317.5 In reply to 6317.1 
I think it's a great idea, too. :-)
 

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 From:  Mike (MIKEN)
 To:  Vicky (ANDERI) 
6317.6 In reply to 6317.5 
I tried to send some business your way yesterday but they wanted somebody in Ottawa.

Mike Null
Dist. of Lazer Cutting Grid
www.stl-laser.com

 

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 From:  Vicky (ANDERI)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
6317.7 In reply to 6317.6 

Thanks, Mike. :-) I'm a little far from Ottawa. They'd wind up paying for shipping anyway.

You should post a note on the SMC forum as well. Let Abdul know how close he was to getting a referral. ;-)

 

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 From:  Mike (MIKEN)
 To:  Vicky (ANDERI) 
6317.8 In reply to 6317.7 
I sent him a pm so I hope he updates his info.

Mike Null
Dist. of Lazer Cutting Grid
www.stl-laser.com

 

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 From:  Dave Jones (DAVERJ)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6317.9 In reply to 6317.4 

Having a directory of available engravers would be different than a member list. Not all members would want to offer their services to the public. A suggestion for the forum authors might be to have a feature where a checkbox could be checked while setting your profile if you want your profile available in a directory rather than only when somebody clicks on your name in a post. Or maybe multiple checkboxes for multiple directories. (ie: in this case one for services offered to anybody vs services offered only to the trade)

Another method would be a fairly basic database, with one form to fill in if you want a listing in the directory, and another page to view and sort the directory. A third page for an admin to delete or edit entries. A couple of php pages and a single table database and you've got an instant directory. Sounds like a feature for the subscription version of the site. ;-)

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Dave Jones (DAVERJ) 
6317.10 In reply to 6317.9 
Dave,

I'm sure the Beehive Developers have a list, a mile long, with recommendations for improvement. That's the downside of a volunteer effort. Plenty of work, without much incentive for the worker bees to implement the ideas.

Your database idea sounds like the straightest path.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6317.11 In reply to 6317.10 
It is for this reason I like the world map with the members given on the map. We toyed with the one available and I liked it. When we have some cash to get it integrated,we will have to ask members what they think. If memory serves, it was an opt-in piece of software.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) 
6317.12 In reply to 6317.11 
Harvey,

Does that software (besides showing where members are located) give contact information?

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6317.13 In reply to 6317.12 

In the test we did I am fairly sure it did. It was a long time ago, over a year that we ran it through its paces. I do not even remember the name of the software, but it is buried somewhere in the forum.

I found our discussions BOD2374.1 and BOD3796.1

When I have some time I will review them again.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

 

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 From:  Mick
 To:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) 
6317.14 In reply to 6317.11 
Harvey,

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When we have some cash to get it integrated


I am thinking this might be when you fire up the Pay Forum. I thought it might be announced in Las Vegas but no word on it there. Any idea on how soon the Pay site is expected to kick-off and what we might expect to be included ? I am ready.

Mick
Cactus Equipment & Supplies
www.cactus-equipment.com
800-440-6847

 

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 From:  Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)
 To:  Mick 
6317.15 In reply to 6317.14 

David will have to answer that question. He is the one working with the programmer/integrator for the site.

There are a lot of little things that must be done to get it just right, things that do not get thought of until you hit that point.

It is amazing the mass of integration necessary to set it up. Features will appear as we get them integrated.

It is good that it has taken so long, new ideas cropped up that are important to the members. We have looked around and have seen that one or two original ideas so not seem to fly elsewhere, so we have even modified some of our basic concepts. The members should like the changes, even though they did not know the original ideas.

I always thought that it was taking tooooooo long. But as we are working on it I realized that it is right to take this long, it will be better without having to make changes later.

The only problem I see in the length of the setup is the burden on David's pocketbook. How he can be as comfortable with that as he is, is beyond me.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Mick 
6317.16 In reply to 6317.14 

Mick,

I fully expected to "be there" by now.

As Harvey pointed out, we've reached the early stages of integrating the subscription software.

I won't personally be comfortable with accepting payments, until I "kick the tires" of that process, to see that it works as it should.

My wish is to launch the subscription site, by the end of the month. Since some of the work is beyond my personal area of expertise, and therefore, beyond my control, that timeline isn't set in stone.

As far as what to expect, it will be a continuation of what we've arguably established as the most diverse, active, and informative online forum, for the awards and engraving industry, along with features that we've advertised in the past, i.e. TeleSeminars, more of the ever-popular PicTutorials and getting to know our members through Member Spotlights.

Realizing that our ability to implement some of the more "ambitious" features, such as videotaped "how to" tutorials and live online training, will be incremental, we've abandoned the concept of a multi-level site.

Instead, everyone will be in on one level, at one price, for one year = $36

That breaks down to much less per month than it takes to support a low-level Starbuck's habit. :-)

I've maintained that this site will always be a work in progress, but we have to start somewhere.

That's where we'll turn the next page in Engraving Etc. history.

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

EDITED: 14 Mar 2007 by DGL

 

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 From:  Carl (CSEWELL)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6317.17 In reply to 6317.16 
quote:
That's where we'll turn the next page


Ohhhhh.... will that be the theme song? "Turn the page" by Seger?

Carl

  Guntersville Laser Engraving
  Guntersville, AL
  http://www.GuntersvilleLaser.com

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 From:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6317.18 In reply to 6317.16 
quote:
As far as what to expect, it will be a continuation of what we've arguably established as the most comprehensive, active, and informative online forum, for the awards and engraving industry, along with features that we've advertised in the past, i.e. TeleSeminars, more of the ever-popular PicTutorials and getting to know our members through Member Spotlights.


David,
I would think the added benefit of a "referral directory" would be part of the pay site.
Either way, as always you know you have my support.
 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE) 
6317.19 In reply to 6317.18 
Thank you Chuck.

That's something we've discussed, before the idea was brought up in this thread.

We'll make it happen!

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Carl (CSEWELL) 
6317.20 In reply to 6317.17 

Carl,

Unless I can find a way to abbreviate many of my posts, the theme song may be Seger's, "Ramblin' Man." :-)

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

EDITED: 14 Mar 2007 by DGL

 
 
   
 

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