Epilog Legend EX and Windows Vista - Engraving Etc. Forum

From:	Mike (MIKEHUNTER)	22 Mar 2007
To:	ALL	1 of 17

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Bought a new PC with Windows Vista pre-installed a few weeks ago. The Epilog driver did not seem to install correctly , so I emailed Tech Support.

Within an hour or so, I had an email back : the driver ***IS*** Vista compatible, but a file was missing from the download set available on the Epilog site. Attached to the email was a zip file of the driver files which installed fine.

Bravo to Epilog Tech Support! - superquick fix!

Mike

Precision Prototypes
Michelmersh, Hampshire, UK

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	22 Mar 2007
To:	Mike (MIKEHUNTER)	2 of 17

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Mike, Epilog won't be alone. Vista came out of the gate prematurely. A friend of mine bought a new Gravograph laser and tried to run it on Vista. There was a driver incompatability issue, which Gravopgraph is working out. David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	Cody (BOBTNAILER)	22 Mar 2007
To:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	3 of 17

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quote: Vista came out of the gate prematurely. Exactly why we opted to go with XP on both PC's that we just bought. They do come with free Vista upgrades, but until all of the necessary drivers are available for us, we're going to stick with XP.

From:	RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1)	22 Mar 2007
To:	Cody (BOBTNAILER)	4 of 17

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Excellent plan...We had the same problem with mac when it went to os x

None of the drivers for older equpiment would work with the new os.....It was a huge mess...Sucks to be on the cutting edge of software sometimes ;)

Thanks,

Brian Genrich

Rallye Productions Inc.
1-800-236-2036 x112
Custom cut, or sheet stock Sublimatable metal,
Screen printing, and other digital print services.

From:	Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)	23 Mar 2007
To:	RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1)	5 of 17

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quote: was a huge mess...Sucks to be on the cutting edge of software sometimes Even worse when you are FORCED to be on the cutting edge. Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem) When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

From:	John (ICTJOHN)	23 Mar 2007
To:	RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1)	6 of 17

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quote: Sucks to be on the cutting edge of software sometimes It's more like: it sucks to be on The Bleeding Edge of software :B John http://www.creative-awards.com creativeawards@msn.com

From:	Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)	23 Mar 2007
To:	John (ICTJOHN)	7 of 17

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I am running a 500 MHz, 32 Meg, 3 Gig hard drive unit on one of my engravers with Win98. It is at least as fast as my modern unit running 1.2 GHz with Win XP.

I have never seen such memory hogs as the more recent versions of Wndows.

So run right out and get the newer deproved versions.

Too bad they do not make drivers for Linux.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.

From:	laserman (MIKEMAC)	23 Mar 2007
To:	Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)	8 of 17

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I have completely given up with MS and I am currently switching to MAC with a dual boot option.

I have been a PC person for ever but this Vista mess makes me sick so I decided to Convert. Even running the Mac in the XP environment the computer screams 5 times faster than anything I currently have and my systems are less than one year old.

What I like about this set-up is being able to have Illustrator open in the mac environment and in the PC environment and copy and paste the files between them without any issues.

We are testing the compatibility issues when printing to our lasers but so far there have been no problems.

CEM- Sales and Service of Universal Lasers, Versa Lasers, and Meistergram / H-square engravers.
2800 S. Main St.,Unit C
Santa Ana, Ca 92707
714-444-2385 Cem Lasers

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	23 Mar 2007
To:	laserman (MIKEMAC)	9 of 17

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Mike, That's quite a statement, coming from a staunch PC user. David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	laserman (MIKEMAC)	23 Mar 2007
To:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	10 of 17

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Well what do they say

"you can't teach an old dog new tricks"

I guess I am not that old so far I'm lovin it :-)

CEM- Sales and Service of Universal Lasers, Versa Lasers, and Meistergram / H-square engravers.
2800 S. Main St.,Unit C
Santa Ana, Ca 92707
714-444-2385 Cem Lasers

From:	Stunt Engraver (DGL)	23 Mar 2007
To:	laserman (MIKEMAC)	11 of 17

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Mike, The Linux proponents on John Fish's site, "Newbies Linux" are rubbing their hands together. They think Microsoft has "jumped the shark" this time, with the introduction of Vista, considering its resource-hungry nature and not-ready-for-primetime status. David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri DGL Engraving Port Hueneme, CA

From:	logojohn	23 Mar 2007
To:	ALL	12 of 17

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Has anybody heard of how far back in models Epilog will release Vista drivers for? I have a feeling there will be some more orphans created. We are still using a Radius as a second laser with XP. Just wondering if we need to ever replace the computer if it will work with Vista down the road. lj

From:	UncleSteve	23 Mar 2007
To:	logojohn	13 of 17

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Supposedly Vista will have the "run as" feature where you can designate a program to run as xp pro and older O/S's... Don't know if or how well it will work, though. "Good friends can be a real annoyance."

From:	Carl (CSEWELL)	23 Mar 2007
To:	UncleSteve	14 of 17

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Gee, didn't Windows 2000 have that 'feature' to pacify all the gamers that couldn't run their games on the newer OSs? If memory serves me correctly, my kids were sorely disappointed over the limitations of the Win2K implementation. Carl Guntersville Laser Engraving Guntersville, AL http://www.GuntersvilleLaser.com

From:	UncleSteve	23 Mar 2007
To:	Carl (CSEWELL)	15 of 17

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Yup.... So does XP. That is why my "if or how well" comment. >.< "Good friends can be a real annoyance."

From:	Dave Jones (DAVERJ)	24 Mar 2007
To:	UncleSteve	16 of 17

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I have a program that uses a serial port and works great in Win95/98 but freezes when trying to access the serial port in 2K or XP, no matter how you set the "compatability mode". So I'm not sure I would trust Microsoft's concept of compatability with Vista. ...Dave Dave Jones Design

From:	Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)	24 Mar 2007
To:	Dave Jones (DAVERJ)	17 of 17

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The SummaSketch tablet uses a serial port and even with their software to add to XP it will not work.

Windows ME changed the directory/file name DOS system by adding a '\' after what it returns, blowing all of the older DOS programs out of the water with that change. Setting it for 98 or 95 compatibility does nothing.

Then XP came along and when a DOS call asks for the drive in use it gives the drive and directory. Then when asked for only the directory it gives drive and directory again. Nothing using those calls can work. Again setting for 98 or 95 compatibility does nothing.

My personal opinion is that it is an intended problem to force the program suppliers to buy the latest version of the languages which cost a fortune for the full package.

Philadelphia, PA (Really Bensalem)

When you finally understand it completely... it changes.