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 From:  Mike (MIKEN)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6472.21 In reply to 6472.20 
David:

I have been using the do not call list for quite a long time now for all my phones and it works quite well. I can't attest to the effectiveness with my cell, which is my primary business phone, but it's rare when I get calls or even the annoying faxes I used to get.
Mike Null Dist. of Lazer Cutting Grid www.stl-laser.com
 

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 From:  GBengraver
 To:  UncleSteve 
6472.22 In reply to 6472.10 
What does Al Gore have to do with any of this??????????
"Nothing is really work unless you would rather be doing something else."
 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Mike (MIKEN) 
6472.23 In reply to 6472.21 
Mike,

Thanks for that uplifting news. :-)

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Laser Image (LASER_IMAGE)
 To:  GBengraver 
6472.24 In reply to 6472.22 
He invented the internet, cell phones and sliced bread
 

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 From:  UncleSteve
 To:  GBengraver 
6472.25 In reply to 6472.22 
Well, since Cody correctly identified the source of the information as the internet, I thought it only right to go the man who claims to have invented it for the real truth!

:-)

"Good friends can be a real annoyance."

EDITED: 2 Apr 2007 by UNCLESTEVE

 

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 From:  GBengraver
 To:  UncleSteve 
6472.26 In reply to 6472.25 

You guys should take some of your own advise before you continue spreading lies.

He never said he "invented" the internet.

Check out what he said here:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

It amazes me how people hear something thru some grapevine and take it as gospel without confirming.
That "don't let the facts get in the way" of a good character assasination attitude.

Just because the present administration does it continually does not make it acceptable.

G

"Nothing is really work unless you would rather be doing something else."
 

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Message 6472.27 deleted 3 Apr 2007 by BOBTNAILER

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 From:  UncleSteve
 To:  GBengraver 
6472.28 In reply to 6472.26 
IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT "IS" IS......

To quote YOUR source, "I took the initiative to create the internet"

Close enough for most people! Invent or create... pick some nits if you want to.

Want a glass of Kool-Aid?

"Good friends can be a real annoyance."

 

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 From:  Cody (BOBTNAILER)
 To:  ALL
6472.29 
I tried to cancel thread #27, but my IE locked up...don't have the energy to waste on a contest of urinary magnitude.
 

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 From:  Stunt Engraver (DGL)
 To:  Cody (BOBTNAILER) 
6472.30 In reply to 6472.29 
Cody,

Looks like your deletion worked after all. Basically, even with the tangent it took, the posts were on topic. :-)

David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA

 

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 From:  Cody (BOBTNAILER)
 To:  Stunt Engraver (DGL) 
6472.31 In reply to 6472.30 

It worked, but not at the right time.

Unfortunately, my fingers started typing before the my brain kicked in. I actually clicked "Cancel", but the reply was posted anyway.

I care nothing about stirring a political debate, nor bringing to surface the emotions that many folks can't/won't hold in.

 

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 From:  Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC)
 To:  GBengraver 
6472.32 In reply to 6472.26 
What part of
quote:
During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

does not reflect that notion? I particularly like Vint Cerf's defense of Gore's statement by saying that "...he makes it a point to be well-informed."
:'D

Jim

 

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 From:  LaZerDude (C_BURKE)
 To:  Cody (BOBTNAILER) 
6472.33 In reply to 6472.29 
quote:
don't have the energy to waste on a contest of urinary magnitude.


I like that. Yep. I like it. B-)
 

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 From:  GBengraver
 To:  Doc (GREAT_ATLANTIC) 
6472.34 In reply to 6472.32 
In 1988 he sponsored the National High-Performance Computer Act (which established a national computing plan and helped link universities and libraries via a shared network) and cosponsored the Information Infrastructure and Technology Act of 1992 (which opened the Internet to commercial traffic).

If this is not helping to create the internet, I don't know what is.

My big gripe is not what you think of Gore, Bush or anyone else.
It is the spreading of lies without checking fact.

G
"Nothing is really work unless you would rather be doing something else."
 

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 From:  Cody (BOBTNAILER)
 To:  GBengraver 
6472.35 In reply to 6472.34 

Grrrr....I wasn't going to get into this thread, was I???

LOL

This past December, our local City Council voted to pave an old oil-top road with concrete, which will give some residents a better drive to and from their houses (a few blocks from my house). Construction began a couple of weeks ago.

Here's my question: Did the Councilman that (or any of the Council) actually PAVE the road?

What was it that the Council did? I'm looking for the VERB.

So....using the same logic, did Algore CREATE the Internet? Other than writing / co-sponsoring a piece of legislation, did he take any active part in the CREATION of it?

It's semantics, I know. But this is one of the most famous of Algore's slips....still not as funny as a lot of Bush-isms. B-)

 

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 From:  Dave Jones (DAVERJ)
 To:  Cody (BOBTNAILER) 
6472.36 In reply to 6472.35 

If a specific city councilman in your town wrote and submitted a proposal for a new local ordinance that would create a new baseball field for local kids out of an old piece of property already owned by the city, and the city council approved it and funded it, would you not give that specific councilman credit for being the one who initiated the creation of that park?

Without the first law mentioned that Gore sponsored the "internet" would have remained a closed network exclusively for military contractors and researchers. Without the second law that he cosponsored the "internet" as we know it today would not exist.

Yes, he did more that sponsor those laws. He went all over the country talking to the people that were using networks, and to people that would ultimately benifit from the network and he pushed the concept of a unified national network harder than any other public figure.

No he did not invent the internet, and never claimed to. He does deserve more credit than any other single person for helping to make the internet happen. The geeks that wrote the code that physically made it work didn't create the internet. Not the internet we know today. The internet is far beyond the wires that connect it and the software that makes it work. It was laws that turned a government run private network over to public non profit organizations and gave them funding and a direction to go.

 

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 From:  Funkmeister (FUNKY)
 To:  Laser Image (LASER_IMAGE) 
6472.37 In reply to 6472.20 
(devil) (devil) (devil) (devil) I still get these calls from my land line even though i am supposed to be on the "do not call list". I had one jerk keep calling every month. I finally got serious. Actually i had been out that night ahving some cocktails :P Here's what said that night he called"HE"S DEAD.. QUIT CALLING FOR HIM!.
No more calls as of last night.
 

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 From:  Cody (BOBTNAILER)
 To:  Dave Jones (DAVERJ) 
6472.38 In reply to 6472.36 
Dave,

I see your point, and I can respect it.

However, I am an absolutist (sort of :P), and I believe that words have meaning.

For example, the action verb "to pave" means just that. The correct verbs for the Council would be "to vote", "to discuss", "to brainstorm", etc.

I drive by that project every day. I've never seen the Council out there with tools and equipment. In fact, I'd bet that most members of our Council could not carry on a conversation with most of the people DOING the work. Newsflash: Mexicans are paving the street.....not the government.

quote:
would you not give that specific councilman credit for being the one who initiated the creation of that park?


Yep. But look at the words you used. "Initiated the creation", not "created".

Words have meaning.
 

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 From:  GBengraver
 To:  Cody (BOBTNAILER) 
6472.39 In reply to 6472.35 

What you are describing is not the same thing.

Was this road paving a new process that will change the way the world drives on roads?

The internet has revolutionized the way the world communicates and relays information.

That is a lot different than a town council voting to repave a road.

 

G.

"Nothing is really work unless you would rather be doing something else."
 

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 From:  Cody (BOBTNAILER)
 To:  GBengraver 
6472.40 In reply to 6472.39 
You have completely missed the point.
 
 
   
 

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