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  <pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:11:42 UT</pubDate>
  <title>Foil vendor</title>
  <link>https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&amp;msg=3370.1</link>
  <dc:creator>Zonas</dc:creator>
  <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the offer.  We've been ordering from California, and happy with the product, just not the shipping charges and time factor.  That's why we were trying to find any foil vendors in the midwest.  

I will keep you in mind, if we are ever in a pinch though.

Zona]]></description>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:01:15 UT</pubDate>
  <title>Gold Embossing</title>
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  <dc:creator>Stunt Engraver (DGL)</dc:creator>
  <description><![CDATA[Mr. C,

We have no control over that.  All we can do is put the &#34;truth in advertising&#34; out there. :-)&#160;]]></description>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 23:44:45 UT</pubDate>
  <title>Custom Die ?</title>
  <link>https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&amp;msg=2819.1</link>
  <dc:creator>Rodney Gold (RODNEY_GOLD)</dc:creator>
  <description><![CDATA[The magnesium plate is used for printing and it has a photoresist already applied , all you do is print a positive or negative on transparency and expose the plate to uv with the print atop the photosensitive resist. You then wash out the plate , which removes part of the resist where you want the etch to happen. The plate is dipped in acid or some other mordant and the unprotected areas are eaten away. The reason magnesium is used are to do with etch times and the depth of etch as well as its heat transferrence characteristics. The dies need to be etched deep quick , the longer the stay in the etch , the more chance of the resist being damaged (the resist is what protects the unetched bits) and the more chance that undercutting will occur (the etch pattern is not straight down , it tends to etch sideways into vertical thin sections.)]]></description>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:06:10 UT</pubDate>
  <title>Creating Hot Stamp Die</title>
  <link>https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&amp;msg=2554.1</link>
  <dc:creator>Bill (BILLPARK)</dc:creator>
  <description><![CDATA[Thanks, John.
I'll give it a try.

Bill]]></description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:24:54 UT</pubDate>
  <title>Have you seen this process?</title>
  <link>https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&amp;msg=2506.1</link>
  <dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
  <description><![CDATA[I've heard a lot about this signature brand from people in the US...I must admit none of it has been positive....?

regards
Peter]]></description>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:35:23 UT</pubDate>
  <title>Hot Stamp Rubber From Laser Bits</title>
  <link>https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&amp;msg=1237.1</link>
  <dc:creator>Rodney Gold (RODNEY_GOLD)</dc:creator>
  <description><![CDATA[There is a huge market for silicon hot foiling stamping dies  , it's a specific product aimed at specific applications. If the item is not dead smooth and not dead flat , then its the best way of foiling it. It's not really meant to replace magnesium brass and steel dies which cannot foil on rough surfaces or slightly curved ones. The prices you can get doing these are huge. They do as good a job as metal dies if used on the same surface , but wont last as long.
Reasons for not being able to get as good an impression would be more on the foilers side than this material , most likely too much temperature , too much dwell time or too much dwell pressure or perhaps the die was not engraved with the correct shoulder and is &#34;squirming&#34; You have to use fairly broad shoulders when making these , especially if the die has thin lines.
You also get various grades of this material with varying shore hardnesses , for higher pressure applications , you use the harder silicon
We buy ours from foiling suppliers who are a lot cheaper than laserbits. another application is tipping, basically the silicon sheet ats as a conformable base for items that have raised portions requiring a foil finish , for example a gauge wih a raised edge or border , the whole item is pushed onto a silicon die sheet (with foil between the sheet and item) and only where the raised portion touches is the foil applied - like the gauges or instrument bezels you see in autos with silver tipped raised rings etc around them.]]></description>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 10:20:07 UT</pubDate>
  <title>gold foil</title>
  <link>https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&amp;msg=1389.1</link>
  <dc:creator>Stunt Engraver (DGL)</dc:creator>
  <description><![CDATA[Peter,

Matte board takes a gold foil image very well.  The process isn't very involved:

1) Create a die from camera-ready artwork.  The dies are usually made from magnesium, using an acid etching process.  Usually, professionally done (outsourced).

2)  Attach the die to the heat platen of a hot stamping machine.  Heat to approx. 200 degrees.  Gold generally needs less heat than other colors.

3) Place matte board in position.

4) Place gold foil between the die and the matte board, either by placing a roll of foil in an auto-advance mechanism, or by manually placing a piece on the matte board.

5) Print, by pulling the handle or pressing the footswitch of a pneumatically-operated machine.]]></description>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:05:52 UT</pubDate>
  <title>Need hot stamping done</title>
  <link>https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&amp;msg=1153.1</link>
  <dc:creator>Don (DONFORD)</dc:creator>
  <description><![CDATA[I got a phone call from a man up north and he was going to send me his info but haven't received it yet.  If you are reading this, please let me know.  He said a man here had told him about me needing these stamped.  Please contact me at either email below or call me at

800-872-7832, ext. 195 (CST)

Work, dford@s-tec.com

Home donford@cox.net

Thank you

Don]]></description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:36:14 UT</pubDate>
  <title>Creating hot stamp dies</title>
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  <dc:creator>ABH (BACHI)</dc:creator>
  <description><![CDATA[Hi All, 

I have GCC Explorer, 50watt machine and need to make hot stamping dies with aluminum backed silicon rubber. I got the material from Laserbits a few days ago and am ready to roll except that I am having trouble navigating through the stamp mode of the driver. I need step by step guidance through the complete process, especially with the following: 

---When I select the stamp mode and go into the stamp screen, I dont know how to select the different values. e.g the pitch, shoulder and the power levels. 

---What are the different power levels given at the bottom of the screen and how do you use them. 

---What power settings are you supposed to set in the pen mode. 

I have to make and deliver a sample die to a printing house and need the die to be perfect in order to secure an ongoing order. 

(These questions are specific to the GCC Laserpro Explorer 50 watt machine driver) 

Will appreciate all the help you folks can give.Thanks 

Bachi (ABH)]]></description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:18:12 UT</pubDate>
  <title>Hot Stamping Learning Curve</title>
  <link>https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&amp;msg=82.1</link>
  <dc:creator>Stunt Engraver (DGL)</dc:creator>
  <description><![CDATA[Harvey,

In absence of true gold foil, there are crossover foils that come very close in appearance, and adhere to leather very well.

The small Kingsley machine you own can be used to place single color logos on plastic namebadges.  Multiple colors are possible, but the registration is more hassle than it's worth, for a short run.

David &#34;The Stunt Engraver&#34; Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA]]></description>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:30:46 UT</pubDate>
  <title>Used machine</title>
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  <dc:creator>Rodney Gold (RODNEY_GOLD)</dc:creator>
  <description><![CDATA[The biggest problem with foiling is the dies , however ou can do foiling dies on the laser using high temp silicon , same as rubber stamps. you can achieve incredible detial , even better than etching methods used to make dies. Foiling is real cheap and works on many items , if you have a laser , a $200 extra inverstment isnt much money. It's hardly high tech to operate either. Silicon dies work on stuff with less than flat and smooth surfaces , but dont last as long as magnesium , brass or steel dies.
With a laser , you could for example die cut and foil acrylic etc etc - many opportunities present themselves. You can use a foiler for embossing and debossing too. Nice thing about the laser is the die cutting ability , so you can do card , vinyl stickers , papers and so on. Also great for branding  cheapy items like plastic pens etc that a laser cant.
Another great application is tipping , like engrave a medallion or a product logo with the letters sticking out and use the hot foiler with a silicon pad to tip the surface with gold etc.
Foils come in a zillion colours , you can actually foil a smooth surface and laser engrave it too , kinda make your own metallic coloured material.
IMHO it's a fantastic addition. Foiling goes hand in hand with pad printing and that too is VERY profitable , espcially since you can make the cliches (the engraved or etched plates that hold the ink) with a laser. ]]></description>
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