Donation vs. Pay - Engraving Etc. Forum

<body> <h1>Full Version: <a href="https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.63">Donation vs. Pay</a></h1><a name="a1603_63"></a><p><b>From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.63">#63</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Ken D. (KDEVORY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.62">#62</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> <p>The test program has been up for months. Guess you missed the thread. A lot of feedback was gathered and most was able to be accommodated within the program.</p> <p>At the moment only the beginning of the alphabet is inputted, I need more time to complete the entries.</p> <p>To see it, just click on this link. <a href="http://accentonengraving.com/suppliersearch.php">http://accentonengraving.com/suppliersearch.php</a></p> <p>We will need to also add a definition of the search method.</p> <p>Any search criteria entered is taken as a phrase. 'laser plaque' will search for only that phrase, not for 'laser' and 'plaque'. When you use more search criterion's, they are an AND search. Products. 'laser plaque', products 'wood', location 'MD' will give you results only if all are in the result.</p> <hr /><a name="a1603_64"></a><p><b>From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.64">#64</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.60">#60</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> <p>David,<br /> Thank you for laying out some of the potential features of the pay to play EE. </p> <p> I think NOW folks that might have been not willing to pay, might since they have a tangible idea of what they could possibly be getting for their money.</p> <hr /><a name="a1603_65"></a><p><b>From: Stunt Engraver (DGL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.65">#65</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Ken D. (KDEVORY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.51">#51</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> Ken,<br /> <br /> The Delphi "Sublimation" (formerly DSSI) and "Engravers" (now Engraving Etc.) forums are both ghost towns, with zero, or very few new posts.<br /> <br /> Their main purpose is as a back up for the respective forums, not to say people aren't free to use them.<br /> <br /> At this point, I wouldn't regard either as a link of interest. <hr /><a name="a1603_66"></a><p><b>From: Stunt Engraver (DGL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.66">#66</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: RALLYGUY (RALLYGUY1)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.58">#58</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> Brian,<br /> <br /> Valid points.<br /> <br /> I'm all for the free trial if people can't find a way to ride a free trial out to eternity. That's a software issue that will be investigated.<br /> <br /> Thanks for your input. <hr /><a name="a1603_67"></a><p><b>From: Stunt Engraver (DGL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.67">#67</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Shaddy</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.61">#61</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> <p>Shaddy,</p> <p>The photographers forum I mentioned earlier has two forums. One is free. One is for "exclusive"(paying) members. Their term, not mine.</p> <p>The free forum is dead. Questions go unanswered for days at a time - if answered at all.</p> <p>People will go where they feel most welcome. They'll go where they get prompt responses to their questions.</p> <p>Like any business or service, people will vote with their wallets. If they can have their needs met for free, wonderful! More power to them.</p> <p>We make no guarantee that a person's bottom line will increase, as the result of being a forum member.</p> <p>We can put money-making, time-saving advice in front of people, from now, to the end of time. If that advice is implemented, or not, is incumbent on the individual member and their level of ambition.</p><p class="edit_text">EDITED: 18 Jul 2005 by DGL</p> <hr /><a name="a1603_68"></a><p><b>From: Shaddy</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.68">#68</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Stunt Engraver (DGL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.67">#67</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> <p>OK, but my suggestion was to keep one forum, and keep it free. At least that's what I meant. Then charge to access the other stuff and features. I love the idea of accessing tutorials and videos. And monetary (or maybe free membership) compensation for writing/making those might spur more people to make some. Which would grow your "library" and keep people coming around.</p> <p>Anyway, just a concern/suggestion</p><hr /><a name="a1603_69"></a><p><b>From: UncleSteve</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.69">#69</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.55">#55</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> Will we be able to pay our "dues" in NY Bialys???? If so, how many per month/year? <hr /><a name="a1603_70"></a><p><b>From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.70">#70</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: UncleSteve</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.69">#69</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> What might the exchange rate be on one of those? <span class="e_confused" title=":S"><span class="e__">:S</span> </span> <hr /><a name="a1603_71"></a><p><b>From: UncleSteve</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.71">#71</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Michael</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.59">#59</a>] 19 Jul 2005</p> <p>I am sorry that you mis-read my quote of YOUR message... The 5% was NOT of the $75 but rather the % of messages that YOU said were beneficial to you.</p> <p>"Reverend Jim, May I have more of the Kool Aid?"</p> <p>Each person will have their own spreadsheet. THEY are the only ones that can determine what they have learned and of what value in time and/or $$ it has been to them.</p> <p>I only showed what it would take for someone to "afford" a $75 annual membership... since that was one of the numbers being kicked around. If it was $50 or $60 or even $35.60 (that is ten cents per day for those of you in Rio Linda) the idea behind finding the funds to do something still follows form.</p> <hr /><a name="a1603_72"></a><p><b>From: UncleSteve</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.72">#72</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.70">#70</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> <p>The exchange rate varies from state to state and person to person. Some find them worth their weight in signs and others try to microwave them and they become rubber offsets to raise materials closer to the laser....</p> <p>Now, if you were to use a laser to "engrave" a persons name into it and then serve it up for breakfast with fresh cream cheese and smoked salmon (lox to the initiated), the value really rises. Add a slice of tomato and Vadalia onion and the sky is the limit! <span class="e_wink" title=";-)"><span class="e__">;-)</span> </span></p> <hr /><a name="a1603_73"></a><p><b>From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.73">#73</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: UncleSteve</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.72">#72</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> <p>So, if I am understanding correctly, when/if the site goes pay, we could pay with food? Or foodstamps?</p> <p>Lemme go toast some bagels</p> <hr /><a name="a1603_74"></a><p><b>From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.74">#74</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.73">#73</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> <p>Chuck,</p> <p>Yes, but in either case, they will need to be laserable.</p> <hr /><a name="a1603_75"></a><p><b>From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.75">#75</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.74">#74</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> I'll add it to my website..... Under products... "Laser Bagels"....the newest thing in personalized breakfast foods..... <hr /><a name="a1603_76"></a><p><b>From: Pete (AWARDMASTERS)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.76">#76</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.28">#28</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> Unless they tax 100% of your income in Hawaii, "tax deductible" does not equate with "free". <hr /><a name="a1603_77"></a><p><b>From: Dee (DEENA-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.77">#77</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.73">#73</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> <p>Chuck,<br /> Off topic but do they have good bagel stores in your neck of the woods and I don't mean Lenders.</p> <p>Dee</p> <hr /><a name="a1603_78"></a><p><b>From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.78">#78</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Pete (AWARDMASTERS)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.76">#76</a>] 19 Jul 2005</p> <p>Pete,<br /> Things are different in Chuckland. No, they do not tax 100% even though purportedly we are one of the highest taxed states in the nation ( depends on how you look at it. I think Wa. is MUCH worse). <br /> However, in Chuckland it is easier on my mind to think of a tax deductible expense as free.</p> <hr /><a name="a1603_79"></a><p><b>From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.79">#79</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Dee (DEENA-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.77">#77</a>] 18 Jul 2005</p> Dee you asked<br /> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote"><br /> Off topic but do they have good bagel stores in your neck of the woods and I don't mean Lenders.</div><br /> <br /> Sadly no. There are a "few" bakeries around and Rick Dees tried to open on once, called, get this, "The Bagel Shop" but the best we are able to do is Safeway or Costalot...er I mean Costco.....<p class="edit_text">EDITED: 18 Jul 2005 by C_BURKE</p> <hr /><a name="a1603_80"></a><p><b>From: Dee (DEENA-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.80">#80</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.79">#79</a>] 19 Jul 2005</p> You did say you wanted to expand your business right? <hr /><a name="a1603_81"></a><p><b>From: Stunt Engraver (DGL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.81">#81</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: Shaddy</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.68">#68</a>] 19 Jul 2005</p> Shaddy,<br /> <br /> The free membership idea was tossed around. Obviously, we don't want to lose our MVPs, which I doubt we will anyway.<br /> <br /> In the discussions, my position was, showing favoritism may become a slippery slope. We have many MVPs, though, some are more prolific than others.<br /> <br /> In compiling a list of those members who would be offered a free membership, invariably, someone will be overlooked, or possibly feel slighted by not being on the list.<br /> <br /> I'm all for paying contributing writers with membership and/or monetary compensation, which is one of the reasons for becoming subscription-based.<br /> <br /> As much as some see the pay concept as a means for myself and my fellow moderators to "get rich" - to use Harvey's term, "plowing" money back into the effort, is in our best interest. <hr /><a name="a1603_82"></a><p><b>From: UncleSteve</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.82">#82</a>]<br /> 18 Jul 2005<br /><b>To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.78">#78</a>] 19 Jul 2005</p> <p>Chuck, Based on some of the news here last night, not only are they considering taxing 100% but they also want to take your house and land away and give it back to the native Hawaiians.....</p> <p><br /> Edited to add: In your case, Kona coffee may be used for payment.... exchange rate to be determined....</p><p class="edit_text">EDITED: 18 Jul 2005 by UNCLESTEVE</p> <hr /><form accept-charset="utf-8" method="get" action="lmessages.php" target="_self"><input type="hidden" name="webtag" id="webtag" class="bhinputtext" value="EE" dir="ltr" /><input type="hidden" name="msg" id="msg" class="bhinputtext" value="1603.83" dir="ltr" /><input type="submit" name="submit" id="submit1" class="button" value="Keep reading…" /></form><p align="center">Show messages:  <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.1">1-2</a>  <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.3">3-22</a>  <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.23">23-42</a>  <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.43">43-62</a>  63-82  <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.83">83-102</a>  <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=1603.103">103-122</a></p> <h4><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=EE">Back to thread list</a> | <a href="llogout.php?webtag=EE">Login</a></h4> <h6>© 2025 <a href="http://www.beehiveforum.net/" target="_blank">Project Beehive Forum</a></h6> </body>