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<body> <h1>Full Version: <a href="https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.2">Info on OEM Laser Sub.</a></h1><a name="a2325_2"></a><p><b>From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.2">#2</a>]<br /> 16 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.1">#1</a>] 17 Nov 2005</p> <p>I use the Konica/Minolta color printer and the special paper for items.</p> <p>It works well on the coated engraving brass/aluminum. It works well on wood, and acrylic. [Once you have your temp and dwell settings right, different for each substrate.]</p> <p>It is difficult to do glass, especially over 3" x 3". Glass needs not to be handled after the transfer, you can scratch off the toner with your fingernail. You have the same problem with the good sublimation coatings.</p> <p>Mugs?? Shirts???</p> <p>It is wonderful on acrylic. Not only pictures, but plaques. Think in full color, even the background, like marbleized backgrounds. If you need white letters, coat the back with acrylic latex primer after imaging. [A sheet of paper almost works, but not good enough.]</p> <p>Laser toner is instantly dissoluble using lacquer thinner.</p> <hr /><a name="a2325_3"></a><p><b>From: Geezer (ERNIE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.3">#3</a>]<br /> 16 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.1">#1</a>] 17 Nov 2005</p> <p>Joe</p> <p>I have been using OEM laser toner for about 5 weeks now. I'm very satisfied with the results on hard substrates especially on tiles and Unisub aluminum.</p> <p>Have you been following my testing reports on DSSI? They might answer some of yur questions.</p> <p>One thing for sure with OEM toners: No clogs, no nozzle checks, no head cleanings >> I've retired my epson 850, 980 (2) C-82's and my 3000.</p> <p>Tiles at 19 cents from Home Depot produce great images and color over multiple tiles for murals is consistant.</p> <p>Ernie</p> <p>Edit: I'm using JBL Graphics papers; SG for soft goods and HG for hard goods.</p><p class="edit_text">EDITED: 16 Nov 2005 by ERNIE</p> <hr /><a name="a2325_4"></a><p><b>From: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.4">#4</a>]<br /> 17 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.2">#2</a>] 17 Nov 2005</p> <p>Harvey<br /> What model Konica/Minolta do you have?<br /> If you were buying today what laser printer would you look at ?<br /> What paper?</p> <p>Thank You so much for the info - it really helps.</p><hr /><a name="a2325_5"></a><p><b>From: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.5">#5</a>]<br /> 17 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: Geezer (ERNIE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.3">#3</a>] 17 Nov 2005</p> <p>Erine <br /> I have been reading threads on DSSI - some times it seems hard for me to keep up with both of the forums. Give me a thread number or title and I will be sure that its one of the ones I am following.<br /> Which printer did you buy - would you suggest it or any others?<br /> Glad to here of other people jumping in on this process.</p> <p>Thank you for responce and the info.</p> <hr /><a name="a2325_6"></a><p><b>From: Geezer (ERNIE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.6">#6</a>]<br /> 17 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.5">#5</a>] 17 Nov 2005</p> <p>Joe</p> <p>On the DSSI forum you will find two folders: </p> <p>Dye Sub Toners</p> <p>Color Laser Transfers</p> <p>These are the ones you want to follow for the latest updates.</p> <p>Ernie</p> <p>Edit: I bought a Samsung CLP510</p><p class="edit_text">EDITED: 17 Nov 2005 by ERNIE</p> <hr /><a name="a2325_7"></a><p><b>From: trophyman (MIKEBERGER)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.7">#7</a>]<br /> 17 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.4">#4</a>] 17 Nov 2005</p> <p>When I first mentioned that Sublimation toner was available for the Konica-Minolta 2300 color laser printer that I have. I seam to remember Harvey saying that he had the 2400 which is the current version. I get our paper from Airwaves, they are a supplier of transfer paper for Screen Printers. <br /> 1-800-hot-peel<br /> <a href="http://airwavesinc.com">http://airwavesinc.com</a></p><p class="edit_text">EDITED: 17 Nov 2005 by MIKEBERGER</p> <hr /><a name="a2325_8"></a><p><b>From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.8">#8</a>]<br /> 17 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: ALL</b></p> <p>I am just starting a run of Xmas Ornaments using the OEM toner system. A full color cute angel of a girl, cut out along the edges and room for engraving at the bottom. Now to see if they sell.</p> <p>Does anyone have a drawing, not photo, of a cherubic boy that I can use as a boy angel? That would finish it up.</p> <hr /><a name="a2325_9"></a><p><b>From: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.9">#9</a>]<br /> 17 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.8">#8</a>] 17 Nov 2005</p> <p>Harvey <br /> What substrate are you doing this on?</p><hr /><a name="a2325_10"></a><p><b>From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.10">#10</a>]<br /> 17 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.9">#9</a>] 18 Nov 2005</p> <p>1/8" clear acrylic.</p> <p>Cannot do that with dye-sub!!!</p> <hr /><a name="a2325_11"></a><p><b>From: John (JOHNRMONTG)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.11">#11</a>]<br /> 19 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.2">#2</a>] 19 Nov 2005</p> Hi Harvey ... I haven't ever heard of utilzing acryrilic with any type of sublimation. Is it unique to laser sublimation? What dwell times/temps are you using? I really like the ideas you have for some of the effects you described and would love trying them as well. <hr /><a name="a2325_12"></a><p><b>From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.12">#12</a>]<br /> 19 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: John (JOHNRMONTG)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.11">#11</a>] 19 Nov 2005</p> <p>Sublimation cannot do acrylic, too high a temperature needed.</p> <p>Going from memory I use 280*F and 40 seconds using a 1/16" green silicon pad. The 1/4" brick red pad needs about 90-120 seconds. Medium to light pressure.</p> <p>Be sure that the heat press is accurate, even 15* too high will have an effect on the surface of the acrylic, 30* will melt the surface enough to leave severe impressions of the texture of the pad.</p> <p>You can probably do it at a far lower temperature with a longer time, just enough to get the surface of the acrylic to about 160*, the average melting and bonding temp of the laser toner.</p> <hr /><a name="a2325_13"></a><p><b>From: John (JOHNRMONTG)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.13">#13</a>]<br /> 19 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.12">#12</a>] 19 Nov 2005</p> Thanks Harvey (again) ... just this thread started my creative juices flowing... <hr /><a name="a2325_14"></a><p><b>From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.14">#14</a>]<br /> 20 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: John (JOHNRMONTG)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.13">#13</a>] 20 Nov 2005</p> <p>John,</p> <p>I have someone sending me a sample of an acrylic piece that had an image heat pressed on it using OEM toners and a special release paper. The company has developed their own paper. They are not reselling something that is already on the market.</p> <p>I will give you my impression and have the manufacturer share more details here on the forum.</p> <hr /><a name="a2325_15"></a><p><b>From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.15">#15</a>]<br /> 20 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.1">#1</a>] 21 Nov 2005</p> <p>Thanks Joe! Thanks a lot!!!!</p> <p>Now I must go do battle with my wife over sublimation equipment again. You have me thinking, and you know how dangerous THAT can be. Sheesh....the products, the market, the toy......er I mean TOOLS!!!!! </p> <p>Thanks a bunch........ <span class="e_grin" title=":D"><span class="e__">:D</span> </span></p> <hr /><a name="a2325_16"></a><p><b>From: John (JOHNRMONTG)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.16">#16</a>]<br /> 20 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.14">#14</a>] 20 Nov 2005</p> David .... sounds interesting ...I will be interested in what you find out. <hr /><a name="a2325_17"></a><p><b>From: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.17">#17</a>]<br /> 21 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.14">#14</a>] 21 Nov 2005</p> <p>David<br /> I have someone who is sending me the same thing - they too developed there own paper. I bet were talking about the same person. We should pm or email and compare notes. One thing for sure I am liking what and see and hear about this process.</p> <hr /><a name="a2325_18"></a><p><b>From: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.18">#18</a>]<br /> 21 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.15">#15</a>] 21 Nov 2005</p> This proccess fits well with our current make up and opens some options I like. Not much battle with my wife on this. We spent part of Saturday checking out the features and cost of the printers. May have one before Thanksgiving. <hr /><a name="a2325_19"></a><p><b>From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.19">#19</a>]<br /> 21 Nov 2005<br /><b>To: JHayes55</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.18">#18</a>] 21 Nov 2005</p> <p>Joe,<br /> Let me know what you finally decide upon as far as equipment.</p> <hr /><p align="center">Show messages: <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.1">All</a>  <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=2325.1">1</a>  2-19</p> <h4><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=EE">Back to thread list</a> | <a href="llogout.php?webtag=EE">Login</a></h4> <h6>© 2025 <a href="http://www.beehiveforum.net/" target="_blank">Project Beehive Forum</a></h6> </body>