From: Geezer (ERNIE) [#6]
17 Nov 2005
To: JHayes55 [#5] 17 Nov 2005
Joe
On the DSSI forum you will find two folders:
Dye Sub Toners
Color Laser Transfers
These are the ones you want to follow for the latest updates.
Ernie
Edit: I bought a Samsung CLP510
EDITED: 17 Nov 2005 by ERNIE
From: trophyman (MIKEBERGER) [#7]
17 Nov 2005
To: JHayes55 [#4] 17 Nov 2005
When I first mentioned that Sublimation toner was available for the Konica-Minolta 2300 color laser printer that I have. I seam to remember Harvey saying that he had the 2400 which is the current version. I get our paper from Airwaves, they are a supplier of transfer paper for Screen Printers.
1-800-hot-peel
http://airwavesinc.com
EDITED: 17 Nov 2005 by MIKEBERGER
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#8]
17 Nov 2005
To: ALL
I am just starting a run of Xmas Ornaments using the OEM toner system. A full color cute angel of a girl, cut out along the edges and room for engraving at the bottom. Now to see if they sell.
Does anyone have a drawing, not photo, of a cherubic boy that I can use as a boy angel? That would finish it up.
From: JHayes55 [#9]
17 Nov 2005
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#8] 17 Nov 2005
Harvey
What substrate are you doing this on?
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#10]
17 Nov 2005
To: JHayes55 [#9] 18 Nov 2005
1/8" clear acrylic.
Cannot do that with dye-sub!!!
From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#11]
19 Nov 2005
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#2] 19 Nov 2005
Hi Harvey ... I haven't ever heard of utilzing acryrilic with any type of sublimation. Is it unique to laser sublimation? What dwell times/temps are you using? I really like the ideas you have for some of the effects you described and would love trying them as well.
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#12]
19 Nov 2005
To: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#11] 19 Nov 2005
Sublimation cannot do acrylic, too high a temperature needed.
Going from memory I use 280*F and 40 seconds using a 1/16" green silicon pad. The 1/4" brick red pad needs about 90-120 seconds. Medium to light pressure.
Be sure that the heat press is accurate, even 15* too high will have an effect on the surface of the acrylic, 30* will melt the surface enough to leave severe impressions of the texture of the pad.
You can probably do it at a far lower temperature with a longer time, just enough to get the surface of the acrylic to about 160*, the average melting and bonding temp of the laser toner.
From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#13]
19 Nov 2005
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#12] 19 Nov 2005
Thanks Harvey (again) ... just this thread started my creative juices flowing...
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#14]
20 Nov 2005
To: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#13] 20 Nov 2005
John,
I have someone sending me a sample of an acrylic piece that had an image heat pressed on it using OEM toners and a special release paper. The company has developed their own paper. They are not reselling something that is already on the market.
I will give you my impression and have the manufacturer share more details here on the forum.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#15]
20 Nov 2005
To: JHayes55 [#1] 21 Nov 2005
Thanks Joe! Thanks a lot!!!!
Now I must go do battle with my wife over sublimation equipment again. You have me thinking, and you know how dangerous THAT can be. Sheesh....the products, the market, the toy......er I mean TOOLS!!!!!
Thanks a bunch........ :D
From: John (JOHNRMONTG) [#16]
20 Nov 2005
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#14] 20 Nov 2005
David .... sounds interesting ...I will be interested in what you find out.
From: JHayes55 [#17]
21 Nov 2005
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#14] 21 Nov 2005
David
I have someone who is sending me the same thing - they too developed there own paper. I bet were talking about the same person. We should pm or email and compare notes. One thing for sure I am liking what and see and hear about this process.
From: JHayes55 [#18]
21 Nov 2005
To: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#15] 21 Nov 2005
This proccess fits well with our current make up and opens some options I like. Not much battle with my wife on this. We spent part of Saturday checking out the features and cost of the printers. May have one before Thanksgiving.
From: LaZerDude (C_BURKE) [#19]
21 Nov 2005
To: JHayes55 [#18] 21 Nov 2005
Joe,
Let me know what you finally decide upon as far as equipment.
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