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<body> <h1>Full Version: <a href="https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.17">Red Letters on Stainless</a></h1><a name="a4507_17"></a><p><b>From: Stunt Engraver (DGL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.17">#17</a>]<br /> 3 Aug 2006<br /><b>To: Peter</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.16">#16</a>] 3 Aug 2006</p> Peter,<br /> <br /> The last question posed, in Rodney's extremely informative thread, went unanswered.<br /> <br /> How do you deal with disposing of the waste created by the acid etching process? <hr /><a name="a4507_18"></a><p><b>From: Jim (PUZZLEHEAD)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.18">#18</a>]<br /> 3 Aug 2006<br /><b>To: jeff (JCHUMBLEY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.13">#13</a>] 3 Aug 2006</p> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">I looked in your profile and you dont have anything in it. Where are you located?</div><br /> <br /> <br /> I am in the midwest, about 5-6 days UPS ground shipping away from you. I am sure there are plenty of shops within one day shipping from you who can easily do a job like this. DGL could certainly do it and also Quality One Engravers does work like this.<hr /><a name="a4507_19"></a><p><b>From: UncleSteve</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.19">#19</a>]<br /> 3 Aug 2006<br /><b>To: Jim (PUZZLEHEAD)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.18">#18</a>] 3 Aug 2006</p> Jim,<br /> <br /> He is also 2-3 days away via priority mail..... and most likely at an "all you can fit" rate.<br /> <br /> <hr /><a name="a4507_20"></a><p><b>From: Peter</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.20">#20</a>]<br /> 3 Aug 2006<br /><b>To: Stunt Engraver (DGL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.17">#17</a>] 3 Aug 2006</p> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">How do you deal with disposing of the waste created by the acid etching process? </div><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> David<br /> <br /> Good question.<br /> <br /> a couple of ways.<br /> <br /> 1. You either decant the product into plastic drums and have a liquid waste management company dispose of it for you.<br /> <br /> 2. or you have a sophisticated waste liquid treatment plant incorporated into your production system.<br /> <br /> Either way pricing the plates must take into consideration these costs.<br /> <br /> regards<br /> Peter <hr /><a name="a4507_21"></a><p><b>From: Zonas</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.21">#21</a>]<br /> 4 Aug 2006<br /><b>To: jeff (JCHUMBLEY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.1">#1</a>] 4 Aug 2006</p> You don't have a rotary, but the cutter I use is an EH-8 from Bruce Diamond. I have several different sizes of SS cutters. Other instructions, double passes, lubricate, clean good before paint filling, etc. are the same.<br /> <br /> several have asked about this cutter ... here is the info from their website.<br /> <br /> <font color="#FF0000">Awards and Recognition Association<br /> <br /> Winner Best New Technology<br /> <br /> The EH-8 Series ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œ Long Lasting Cutters<br /> Stainless ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œ Brass ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œ Aluminum ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œ Plastic ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œ Phenolic<br /> <br /> The EH-8 Series represents the newest cutting tool technology. It offers vastly improved engraving performance plus increased tool longevity with tighter tolerances and cleaner cuts.<br /> <br /> <br /> <font color="#FF0000"> EH-8 Put to the Test<br /> In a recent series of tests conducted for Bruce Diamond by an independent Master Engraver with over 40 years experience, the EH-8 was put through its paces by engraving a plaque of the Gettysburg Address on a piece of 304L stainless steel, one of the most difficult materials to engrave. The tool sailed through all 1,215 characters of 24-point type without resharpening! Typically, the best micrograin tool would need to be resharpened after 100 characters or less on 304L stainless.<br /> <br /> Astounding success on other substrates<br /> Additional tests were conducted on brass, aluminum, plastic and phenolic showing significant increases of at least 5 times greater longevity in tool life. It was also found that the quality of the work improved with better tolerances and cleaner cuts.</font></font><br /> <br /> I have used these on 304 SS plates and do get a lot more mileage/letters out of them. I hate the mess/time of SS but love the $$. <span class="e_shades" title="B-)"><span class="e__">B-)</span> </span><br /> <br /> <br /> Zona<br /> Topeka, KS<hr /><a name="a4507_22"></a><p><b>From: Rodney Gold (RODNEY_GOLD)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.22">#22</a>]<br /> 4 Aug 2006<br /><b>To: Stunt Engraver (DGL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.17">#17</a>] 5 Aug 2006</p> <p>The co that supplys us the the Ferric takes the spent etch back. We just decant it into the containers it came in and they collect.<br /> It seems to poses no ecological risk or toxicity according to this<br /> <a href="http://wfldelearn.pssd.com/BinderView_PSS/vault/005/005325.pdf">http://wfldelearn.pssd.com/BinderView_PSS/vault/005/005325.pdf</a><br /> Tho it does have recommendations as to disposal which probably vary from country to country.<br /> I certainly wouldnt dump it down the drain or anything like that</p><hr /><a name="a4507_23"></a><p><b>From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.23">#23</a>]<br /> 5 Aug 2006<br /><b>To: Rodney Gold (RODNEY_GOLD)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.22">#22</a>] 5 Aug 2006</p> Don't forget that if you've used the ferric to etch stainless that the ferric now contains a fair amount of chromium, since stainless has a high chromium content. Chomium is a toxic metal.<p class="edit_text">EDITED: 5 Aug 2006 by DAVERJ</p> <hr /><a name="a4507_24"></a><p><b>From: Ward (STENSONENG)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.24">#24</a>]<br /> 5 Aug 2006<br /><b>To: jeff (JCHUMBLEY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.8">#8</a>] 6 Aug 2006</p> <p>It seems that a firm known as Port Engravers in West Sacramento used to do<br /> stainless a few years ago. In fact they were listed in the 2003 SBC Business to Business<br /> yellow pages - Phone 916-371-7317. Good Luck - Ward Stenson "never to old to learn"</p> <hr /><p align="center">Show messages:  <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=4507.1">1-16</a>  17-24</p> <h4><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=EE">Back to thread list</a> | <a href="llogout.php?webtag=EE">Login</a></h4> <h6>© 2025 <a href="http://www.beehiveforum.net/" target="_blank">Project Beehive Forum</a></h6> </body>