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<body> <h1>Full Version: <a href="https://www.engravingetc.org:443/archive/index.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.6">Turkey Layout</a></h1><a name="a5167_6"></a><p><b>From: jeff (JCHUMBLEY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.6">#6</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Rob (AWARDZZ)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.5">#5</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> <p>I cant open in V12 either. Not importable using selected filter or this format not supported.</p> <p>Saved to my documents trying to open in 12 using open file command all file formats selected.</p> <p><br /> Jeff</p> <hr /><a name="a5167_7"></a><p><b>From: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.7">#7</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.1">#1</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> Brian;<br /> <br /> That is not a version 9 CorelDraw file. It is X3.<br /> <br /> In case anyone is wondering, you can check the version of a CDR file by 'viewing' the file in Notepad or some other text package. On the first line, you will see something like this: RIFFÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€ Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Âº9 CDRDvrsn. What follows the CDR is the version of the file. In this case, it is version "D" as in: 10 is A, 11 is B, 12 is C, 13(X3) is D. Below version 10, the actual version number should be displayed (ie 9, 8, 7 etc). <hr /><a name="a5167_8"></a><p><b>From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.8">#8</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.7">#7</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> That is hexadecimal notation. F is 15 then 10 is 16, etc. <hr /><a name="a5167_9"></a><p><b>From: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.9">#9</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.8">#8</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> <div class="quotetext" id="quote"><b>quote: </b></div><div class="quote">That is hexadecimal notation. F is 15 then 10 is 16, etc.</div><br /> <br /> Huh? If it's hexadecimal notation, which it is, "F" is 15, then "A" is 10!!!! Or, rather, version 10 is "A".<br /> <br /> Version 10 is "A"<br /> Version 11 is "B"<br /> Version 12 is "C"<br /> Version 13 X3 is "D" <hr /><a name="a5167_10"></a><p><b>From: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.10">#10</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.9">#9</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> Which begs the question, why did they choose X3? Is it because 13 is unlucky? Any guesses on what the next version will be named? <hr /><a name="a5167_11"></a><p><b>From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.11">#11</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.9">#9</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> <p>1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, a, b, c, d, e, f, 10, 11...</p> <p>Each place has 16 possible values, so 10hex equals 16dec. </p> <p>Been programming too long, to me I can usually see the decimal number when looking at the hexadecimal number.</p> <hr /><a name="a5167_12"></a><p><b>From: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.12">#12</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.11">#11</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> Harvey,<br /> <br /> I understand HEX, but I don't understand the point you are trying to make. Yes, the character that follows the CRD is hexadecimal notation. Is that the point you were trying to make? <hr /><a name="a5167_13"></a><p><b>From: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.13">#13</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.7">#7</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> <p>Carl,</p> <p>I chose the ver 9 to save as....so I thought at least.</p> <p>I just tried it again, maybe it will work for others now.</p> <hr /><a name="a5167_14"></a><p><b>From: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.14">#14</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.13">#13</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> Yep, that worked!<br /> <br /> That's one of the reasons why I created a macro to do that for me. It's real easy to forget to check the box when doing a Save As. Or, if you save it once as version 9, the next time you save it will default to the current version. Version 12, however, does warn you before it saves it. <hr /><a name="a5167_15"></a><p><b>From: BWC (SPY007)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.15">#15</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.13">#13</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> <p>Worked for me as well.</p> <p>Thanks</p> <hr /><a name="a5167_16"></a><p><b>From: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.16">#16</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: BWC (SPY007)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.15">#15</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> good! <hr /><a name="a5167_17"></a><p><b>From: Dave Jones (DAVERJ)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.17">#17</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.12">#12</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> Carl, Harvey was pointing out future versions. He's saying that when they get to CD version 15 they will use "F" and when they get to version 16 they will be using hex "10" as the version number in the place you are talking about.<hr /><a name="a5167_18"></a><p><b>From: UncleSteve</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.18">#18</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.17">#17</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> And don't be one bit surprised if it comes out as 14 or X4 to maintain continuity... <hr /><a name="a5167_19"></a><p><b>From: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.19">#19</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Dave Jones (DAVERJ)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.17">#17</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> Dave;<br /> <br /> That was an assumption he made that I didn't understand. I don't think that they'll stick to a true hexadecimal number to represent the version number in the CDR file based only on the assumption that it appear to be a one byte field. If it were truly a hexadecimal numbering scheme, it wouldn't display as an ASCII representation of that value (ie an "A" would actually have a hexadecimal value of 65, decimal, not "10", decimal, as Harvey suggested).<br /> <br /> Going to "10h" (2-digits) for sixteen would require two bytes. I doubt they will change (assuming it is currently a single byte field) the file format to accommodate a hexadecimal (2 digit) number scheme. After all, a "G" (ie for version 16) or sequential ASCII decimal number is just as easy to deal with in a programming environment. <hr /><a name="a5167_20"></a><p><b>From: Derek (JUSTWELDIT41)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.20">#20</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.19">#19</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> <p>Worked for me thanks and looks great.</p> <p>Derek</p><hr /><a name="a5167_21"></a><p><b>From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.21">#21</a>]<br /> 22 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.19">#19</a>] 22 Oct 2006</p> <p>Only way to know is to wait a few years.</p> <p>Lots of programs put out the ASCII letters for the hex number. Look at the registration numbers on the programs, lots of ASCII hex there.</p> <p>At least the old HPGL put out full float decimal values, a horrid waste of space and computing power though.</p> <hr /><a name="a5167_22"></a><p><b>From: basehorawards</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.22">#22</a>]<br /> 23 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: Carl (CSEWELL)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.9">#9</a>] 23 Oct 2006</p> <p>1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F 10 <br /> 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F 20</p> <hr /><a name="a5167_23"></a><p><b>From: Nick (NICKIONPOE)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.23">#23</a>]<br /> 24 Oct 2006<br /><b>To: BrianC (INKSQUIRTER)</b> [<a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.1">#1</a>] 24 Oct 2006</p> <p>Thank you for sharing.... I think I will do the same and send them in to my son's kindergarten glass. </p> <p>Thanks for sharing!!!</p> <p>Nicole</p><hr /><p align="center">Show messages:  <a href="lmessages.php?webtag=EE&msg=5167.1">1-5</a>  6-23</p> <h4><a href="lthread_list.php?webtag=EE">Back to thread list</a> | <a href="llogout.php?webtag=EE">Login</a></h4> <h6>© 2025 <a href="http://www.beehiveforum.net/" target="_blank">Project Beehive Forum</a></h6> </body>