From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#12]
5 Feb 2005
To: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#11] 5 Feb 2005
Dave,
That is a very valid point in some cases. We would need to be very selective in the process of choosing instructors.
From: UncleSteve [#13]
5 Feb 2005
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#12] 5 Feb 2005
While definitly not a "given", one would think the mfg's would do the vetting of reps so they can put their best foot forward.
Agreed that it may not be big enough THIS time around... but every show starts small and grows if it is important to the industry.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#14]
5 Feb 2005
To: ALL
I don't see this proposed event as an effort to compete with established trade shows. At this point, I simply see it as an opportunity for the forum members to match names to faces and share some of their accumulated knowledge.
I'm all for starting small, and although I would welcome industry supplier participation, I'd strongly object to a "Brought to you by Nabisco" event.
The beauty of this forum, and its primary function, is the sharing of brand-independent information. In my mind, the goal is to develop a "live" extension of that ideaology.
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
EDITED: 5 Feb 2005 by DGL
From: UncleSteve [#15]
5 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#14] 5 Feb 2005
No argument here but it would be nice to have some of YOUR costs offset by those that profit from purchases by the forum members.
From: Ken D. (KDEVORY) [#16]
6 Feb 2005
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#6] 6 Feb 2005
Days and location should be selected to minimize airfare and hotel prices.
Perceived value would be a good topic. This should draw on many examples and comparisons.
For people with lasers, photos are always a big issue / learning curve. It appears to be an art form. Image processing and laser settings all interact. There are already how to classes out there that show how to use a given feature on a given program. What's needed is the when and why. Can the trade-offs of the art be taught?
From: LL (LL40) [#17]
6 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#5] 7 Feb 2005
Greetings,
Organizing work flow would be a great topic. I'm interested in the get together.
LL
From: Shaddy [#18]
7 Feb 2005
To: ALL
Sounds like a good idea. (I have a laser engraver)
Would there be a way to get the pro's and the newbies both there? Like, maybe a general meeting/get together, but then break off into 2 or 3 different groups and cover different things (from simple to advanced). That way you'd have appeal to both ends of the spectrum. I'm a newbie, and would probably slow everything down if I went to an advanced meeting with a million of my questions that everyone else there might already know. My time would be better spent with a workshop covering more of the basics. (prep work of piece to cleanup, laser vector cutting grid improvments? work ideas.)
But I think a lot of tips and advice would come from interacting with everyone during the course of a get-together, so it would be great if there were a full spectrum of people there.
And I'm always interested in hearing what everyone does for their business, there's a ton of different setups here. (like mixing rotary/laser/dye sub...)
my 3 cents (inflation)
Shaddy
From: Ed (EBERTRAND) [#19]
7 Feb 2005
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 7 Feb 2005
Hi David,
Kathy and I would be interested in a get together
depending on the timing.
It's about a 13 hour drive best I can figure, which
isn't to bad.
We are also looking at the Show in Columbus, Ohio
and always go to the ASI Show in Chicago.
Keep us posted and maybe give some idea
of the dates you have in mind.
Ed
From: UCONN Dave & Lynn too (DANDL48) [#20]
7 Feb 2005
To: LL (LL40) [#17] 7 Feb 2005
LL,
I think we should hold it in your town in April. You can get us tickets for the Masters, Right 8<)
Dave
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#21]
7 Feb 2005
To: LL (LL40) [#17] 23 Feb 2005
Lloyd,
I like that one. It's always a good forum topic.
Regardless of what the (1st Annual?) Engraving Etc. event turns into, there are people reading these messages, who are at the administrative level of the established trade organizations.
Keep the ideas coming folks.
I wouldn't be surprised to see some of your ideas hitting the trade show circuit.
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
EDITED: 7 Feb 2005 by DGL
From: Zonas [#22]
9 Feb 2005
To: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#1] 9 Feb 2005
There are so many 'small classes' that I wish ran continuesly, that you could drop by, watch what you need, and go on. (Kinda like the vegetable slicer salesman at the state fair ;). They don't need the depth of a full class slot (I've wished for this at ARA events). Some topics are - diamond engravers - I'd really like to see under BIG magnifing -(where I can rotate it - not flat picture) new, used and dull ones to compare. Also regular cutters. Not selling just learning more of what to look for (kinda confirm what I think I know). Would also like to learn more about diamond drag - and what artwork works best with it. I'm sure all of us find ourselves using the same layout on display (specially when busy), I'd like a demo (all particpants bring samples) class for generating new ideas for layouts.
Zona
Zona's Engraved Creations
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#23]
9 Feb 2005
To: Zonas [#22] 9 Feb 2005
One way to make diamond drag stand out a bit more is to increase the left margin .003 and decrease the right margin .003 after the first pass. That moves the whole thing .003 and shows better. If the engraving is mainly circles it might give an odd result, the top and bottom will be a thinner line.
On something critical that needs more of a line, move right .003, then down .003 then left .003. It will take four passes but leave the lines very even.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#24]
19 Feb 2005
To: ALL
The proposed Missouri seminar (Date TBA) has generated strong interest from the DSSI forum, and for good reason.
Here's how it's shaping up:
Paul Whitehill, owner of Bison Coatings, will discuss the various types of (sublimatable) tiles and their proper applications, i.e. indoor, outdoor, floor, decorative etc.
If you've seen the "Larger-Than-Life" mural installations, of which Paul's company has become renown, you'll want to be there when Photoshop whiz, A.J. Wood, discusses the steps necessary in producing such high-profile works of art.
David Takes tells me a laser engraving rep is raring to discuss laser equipment maintenance procedures - Very crucial, in maximizing a machine's performance.
I haven't decided on a topic for my presentation. Epoxy Doming? Sublimated Award Plaques, using cross-platform techniques, such as combining full-color sublimation with diamond-drag, burnishing and/or laser engraving? <shrug>
We're very much in the early stages of development, but I think you'll have to agree, it's already sounding VERY substantial.
Naturally, a very popular aspect of any event, is a lively Q&A. We'll assemble a panel of experts, from a cross-section of disciplines, to handle just about any question you can throw their way.
As promised, as more details become available, you, the loyal members of the Engraving Etc. and DSSI forums, will be the first to know.
Afterall, it's just one of the many perks, that come with being on the "inside track." :-)
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
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EDITED: 19 Feb 2005 by DGL
From: UncleSteve [#25]
20 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#24] 20 Feb 2005
David,
I wonder what the forum meetings and seminars are worth to those that "can't see paying for free information".......
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#26]
20 Feb 2005
To: UncleSteve [#25] 20 Feb 2005
Steve,
Interesting question. Maybe the fact that we're considering a 50 attendee maximum, will increase the sense of value.
Talk about an "inside track." :-)
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#27]
20 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#26] 20 Feb 2005
Q & A?????
I thought that was what this forum is.
(Including a little bit of chat.)
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#28]
20 Feb 2005
To: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#27] 21 Feb 2005
Harvey,
Are you saying there's no room for "Engraving Etc. Live!?" :-)
Want to be on the panel?
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
From: JHayes55 [#29]
21 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#28] 21 Feb 2005
David
Just to let you know, since I have not comminted before, I am all in
for a midwest get together. We can talk more about this at LV.
Joe
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#30]
21 Feb 2005
To: JHayes55 [#29] 21 Feb 2005
Joe,
I'm looking forward to discussing the upcoming event with you and anyone else who wants to provide their input.
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
From: Harvey only (HARVEY-ONLY) [#31]
21 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#28] 21 Feb 2005
There is room for 'Live', but we already have lively.
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