From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#89]
28 Feb 2005
To: laserman (MIKEMAC) [#88] 28 Feb 2005
Mike,
Thank you.
You may be the only voice for ULS on the forum, but you're coming through with very clear enunciation for the company.
Very impressive participation.
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
From: sprinter [#90]
28 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#85] 28 Feb 2005
Got it covered. I reservred 25 rooms at a hotel close to the airport, they are going to donate a large meeting room.
Also enlisted R.S. Owens as the main sponsor for a couple of grand.
Have contacted at least another dozen hardware and software companies that will pay $500 each to show their wares.
Also contacted several organiztions that represent unemployed minorities and the unemployed due to outsourcing etc for the job fair you are conducting.
Let me know if you need anything else.
P.S. you should be contacted soon to finalize the dates etc. It sure was easy....just had to use your name when talking to all the above people.
EDITED: 28 Feb 2005 by SPRINTER
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#91]
28 Feb 2005
To: sprinter [#90] 28 Feb 2005
Sprinter,
Perfect! Response was immediate. I'm in contact with all parties and they assure me you'll be billed for the entire event.
Thank you so much :-)
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
From: sprinter [#92]
28 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#91] 28 Feb 2005
No problem.
From: MIKEY (JADEPUTTERS) [#93]
28 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#85] 28 Feb 2005
David,
I'm thinking it's going to be hard to beat Kansas BBQ, KC has a good airport and it's on I-70. It's about a 4 hour flight in my little plane so I'll be there if you're keeping track.
Mike
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#94]
28 Feb 2005
To: MIKEY (JADEPUTTERS) [#93] 1 Mar 2005
Mike,
Stop it! I haven't eaten dinner yet. That sounds WAY too good. :-)
All:
I'm thinking a one-day seminar will be best. Certainly open to suggestion on that.
Here's my reasoning:
This is based on a very popular small gathering at the (now defunct) Color Factory (El Cajon, CA) a few years back. People who attended, are still talking about it, in glowing terms.
The owner, Bob Smith, and his staff organized a nice event. It was a two-dayer. Sat/Sun.
Bob wrangled a group rate deal at a local hotel, where the attendees stayed. Nothing fancy, but clean and adequate.
The first day, started off with a presentation by my wife Robyn, explaining how the light we view photos, (or sublimated items) under, affects our ability to accurately reproduce color.
That was followed by a presentation from a Photoshop whiz, showing basic, yet very effective, use of the program. Very well received.
If memory serves, the PS instruction was followed by Larry Cohn's "Mug Press Shootout" which gave us a chance to see the pros and cons of various mug presses.
There was a lunch break, which (I believe) was followed by a presentation from a Corel Draw instructor. Basic use of the various tools etc.
That pretty much wrapped up the first day of instruction.
For dinner, Bob received a group rate, from a local restaurant. Dinner was followed by a party, which was held at Bob's home.
A good time was had by all.
The second day of instruction was rather lightly attended. Plenty of good info to be had, including Bob's marketing ideas and my very first, Sublimated Award Plaque presentation.
I can only assume the diminished attendance was due to people having to make their way back home, or choosing to take in some of the local sights. Who knows? Maybe a hangover or two :-)
I've never been to the KC area myself and would like to have a day to either see the area, or maybe play some golf. (ok, there's the real reason for my suggestion:).
What do you think?
Also, does the low-frill "town hall" idea have any merit, or would you prefer a more upscale Embassy Suites type of thing?
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
From: Engravin' Dave (DATAKES) [#95]
28 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#94] 28 Feb 2005
David,
The Embassy Suites is a good option because there are other more economically priced hotels in the area, some within walking distance. Embassy Suites also has a shuttle from the airport that will save people from having to rent a car. They also have competitive pricing for their meeting rooms. Room prices are a bit higher than some of the hotels, but it does include a nice happy hour reception and a full breakfast.
The other hotels in the immediate area are a Drury Inn and Amerisuites. Within a mile or two is a Comfort Inn, Hampton Inn, EconoLodge, Radison, Holiday Inn Express, Residence Inn, Fairfield Inn, Marriott, Hilton and more.
The best room rates will be found on Friday and Saturday evenings, thus we will be looking at a Saturday seminar date. Are there any opinions to the contrary?
From: Pedaler (ROYBREWER) [#96]
28 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#72] 28 Feb 2005
Dave,
To further complicate things, there are huge differences in each different model of the Epilog and Xenetech (and I suspect everyone else). Regardless of which (if any) machines we have on site, there is a good chance that the majority of attendees would not have that machine and hence.
I guess my thought would be to have a "break out" to different rooms or different corners within the room(s) available for each manufacturer represented.
I'd support your thought of a Powerpoint presentation, possibly with "captured" DV instead of the live DV as suggested by Dave Takes. That way differences in previous models could also be addressed.
What you are talking about has been done on several occasions, so I don't think there would be any issue with fire marshal's etc.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#97]
28 Feb 2005
To: Pedaler (ROYBREWER) [#96] 28 Feb 2005
Thank you Roy.
I really didn't think one manufacturer's maintenace demo would address all brands.
Happy to see you're offering to hang out with the renegades :-)
All the best,
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
From: Pedaler (ROYBREWER) [#98]
28 Feb 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#97] 1 Mar 2005
Dave,
I didn't make myself clear. I'm agreeing that a PP presentation might be better than a ringside seat, one model would hardly cover maintenance/repairs for that one brand.
From: Ken D. (KDEVORY) [#99]
1 Mar 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#94] 1 Mar 2005
David,
I'd love to attend, thought it's still too soon for me to commit.
Low cost and and good value will also come into the decision. Given the airfare and the decision to go for the education, I'd pick two days over one.
I saw another post mention possible hotels. I have no idea what they might cost in that area. I think it said Friday and Saturday had the best rates. What days have the best rates for airlines? I suspect the difference in flying could make the hotel look negligible.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#100]
1 Mar 2005
To: Ken D. (KDEVORY) [#99] 2 Mar 2005
Ken,
We'll make every effort to make the event, itself, as affordable as possible, but as you suggest, getting there by plane, lodging etc. will represent the "Chunky Monkey" for many, including myself.
When we return from Vegas, we'll need to tighten up the logistics. I'd like to move forward as quickly as possible, while allowing ample time for people to review their financial considerations and work schedules.
David "The Stunt Engraver" Lavaneri
DGL Engraving
Port Hueneme, CA
EDITED: 1 Mar 2005 by DGL
From: aallen [#101]
13 May 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#100] 13 May 2005
I am just checking, did a date ever get set on this?? Is is still a go? I am starting to plan out dates for the summer. Let me know if I missed something.
Thanks,
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#102]
13 May 2005
To: aallen [#101] 13 May 2005
Aleta,
I realize we haven't talked about the EE Live event for quite a while, and I've been trying to think of a response to your question, before it was asked.
The event itself is definitely a go. People, here, and from other forums have been looking forward to a Midwest event. The dates and logisitics haven't been set.
David Takes:
I have no idea what the weather in the midwest is like in the summer. I imagine hot and humid. Does it make sense to schedule the event at a time of year which would be more comfortable climate-wise?
After all, I'm hoping to squeeze a round of golf in while I'm there :-)
If hotel/motel rates are higher at "primetime" that would also be a consideration.
From: aallen [#103]
13 May 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#102] 13 May 2005
Thanks for the reply. I was just wondering as I look forward to finally meeting some of you and learning as much as possible :) I learn better seeing and doing in person then reading.
Yes weather here is hot and humid, part of the time, but in kansas, the weather is always changing! That is part of Kansas, don't like the weather today, just wait, it will be different tomorrow! Like this week, from highs of 90's to highs of 60's, you never know!
Thanks, I look forward to more info when available.
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#104]
13 May 2005
To: aallen [#103] 13 May 2005
Aleta,
Nobody's looking forward to our first "Engraving Etc. Live!" event more than myself :-)
I've always said, "Ya Gotta Start Somewhere" and this kick-off event will mark the first of many to follow.
From: Peter [#105]
13 May 2005
To: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#104] 13 May 2005
Now gang,
You should consider Australia for the event.
You get $1.31 AU for every U.S. Dollar here,
Our Shielas are bonza, our beer is beaut, it even tastes better, drank from the back of a Ute.
Our sun is blazing, our winters real mild,
The outback though forbidding aint real wild,
The people are great , the features that's best,
In fact for only that fact ,you can forget the rest,
So come on over and stay for a while
If you come to Adelaide, we'll take you out in style. !
Best regards
Peter and Kathy
From: Stunt Engraver (DGL) [#106]
13 May 2005
To: Peter [#105] 14 May 2005
Peter,
Don't count us out. I've never been, and I'm always looking for a "business" trip :-)
From: JHayes55 [#107]
14 May 2005
To: Peter [#105] 14 May 2005
Peter & Kathy
I have a good friend who's daughter has spent her senior year in Australia.
She has live with 3 or 4 different families during her time over there - its
been an experience she won't soon forget. She heads home in a few weeks.
As far as us coming over for the get together --- I am game.
Now I do not know everything you said in your post - but I could guess about
a few of them - I have heard stories about true Aussie beer, the Ute thing
has me lost - (Utes here are a tribe of Native Americans - from the central
Colorado area) - "Our Shielas are bonza" - This one lost me.
But could we have shrimp on the barby (sp) ? :)
From: Peter [#108]
14 May 2005
To: JHayes55 [#107] 14 May 2005
Ok Joe,
Ute is Australian for the vehicle you guys call a "pickup" not the Ford F100 or F250 size thing , but the sedan size one. They were actually invented by Ford Australia in the early 30's and were adopted by car maufacturers in the USA almost immediately.
Ute is shortened from the formal name "Utility" Utility because thats what they are, useful for many things.
Australians have a very dry sense of humour and a real knack of laughing at themselves, we certainly dont take life as seriously as so many other cultures.
The other thing we do, is Nickname everything and shorten the name of anyone or thing we know...
We unnerve many American executives that come here, because of our tendancy to be so relaxed and take the piss out of their seriousness.
If your last name is Robinson, noone would ever know as you would be nicknamed " Robbo"
or if you had red hair you'd be nicknamed "Blue" or "Bluey".
As for "Bonza Shielas", they are actually old Australian slang terms, no longer in general use, but recognized by all Aussies worldwide non the less.
Bonza means good, great, fabulous, gorgeous.
Shiela means, woman, Girl, Chick ..etc.
But these days if you said shiela , most would think you were a dork.
In Australia we always found that "Shrimp on a Barby " thing quite funny, as we never use the term "Shrimp" those things are known as "Prawns" in Australia, and we always say " throw another Prawn on the barbie", but after much market research the company responsible for those ads so long ago, found that the confusion and difficulty it would have created in the USA market was too much to cope with, so they went with the American terminology
" shrimp"
So when are you guys coming "Down Under"
regards
Peter
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